Canon Backstory For The Time Lords In The Once Upon A Time Story [SPOILERS]

[Masøn M.]

Yup, then they got sucked up, I made Peter get taken by the Franklin’s and put in the ACCU, not planning on the other people also being in there. They were actually gonna go somewhere else, and Peter was gonna be in the Franklin storyline. Almost LotR-ish. However somehow they were all played into Kumquat’s masterful hand.

[DScott]

I suppose everything’s been sorted through already, but here’s what I think anyways. If we go back to the split, then we lose a lot of work that people put in, including my own modest installments. Also, at the end of things, it is just a game. Of course, as so many of us feel, it really has become more than a game. That’s what I thought as I read through it for the first time. That being said, everyone who has added to it, and returned to add more are invested in it, not just as a story, but as their work, and it seems like when a participant makes an entry, that person should keep in mind what has been said previously, and do their best not to contradict what previously happened.
What I actually aspire to say, is that I see both sides. It seems that regardless of age, or physical maturity, everyone here is mentally mature and capable. I really just hope this epic moves on.

[riseofthekumquat]

Just go back to whatever you guys were doing before I started writing. I’ll step back and let you handle things.

[superchris01]

I still want you playing Kumquat. Just be careful what you do. I just saw that line and figured I should probably just come out and say how I felt.

Yeah I see what you’re saying Franklin. Good point.

[Wileycoyote]

Yes I think let’s keep things simple and just keep going. We are all friends here and brothers and sisters in Christ and this is honestly not the end of the world. Ok? Everyone is wanted here still so please me amigos stay here don’t leave me all to my lonesome everyone’s leaving me in real life here I don’t want these buddies leaving me…

[Wileycoyote]

So we can all compromise like Kristen said and then do what Franklin said and keep going yet what Kumquat said by just being careful. Also let’s smooth details out, which could be done as part of the story

[DScott]

What did I say?

[Dawn]

I have no idea. But I think everything’s okay now?

[Wileycoyote]

Yeah man. And Franklin you suggested we keep going on and just be more careful from now on. And you said that we could just keep going from where we are because everyone had added important parts which I didn’t see how much had been added when I said we should start from the portal. I don’t think it’s fair to throw that much out I thought it was like two pages lol it’s like eight haha

[Awkward Potato]

I’ve tried for the most part to keep out of this, just to help it be a little less confusing, but I think we should keep going. This is a rough draft, it doesn’t have to be perfect. If, once we finish the story, we want to change some parts, that’s fine. But unless anyone has objections to the current plot, I say we move on. There’s my two cents.

[DScott]

I didn’t mean to sound like I was advocating either side, I was just late in analyzing the points.

[Jeff Ross]

My Interjection:

Pardon me for not downloading the Clarification Station app and having a difficult time following the story after the second commercial break, but is there a possibility that Chris’s and Troy’s characters could be interpreted or explained as still being distinct? I mean, this is a work of pure, unscientific fiction, so anything is possible. If we can find a way to keep the characters from actually permanently merging or being absorbed, the story in its current form should still be salvageable, as far as I can tell from this thread. That might resolve some of the contention revolving around what the story became compared to where it was going.

I would like to say
This story is outstanding
Just needs fine-tuning

I am more than happy to try and edit or clean up parts of the story, but I’m not scheduled to have much free time to do that until December. In the meantime, remind yourselves why you enjoyed this story so much and work toward restoring that feeling, no matter how much collaborative editing that may take.

Suffice it to say:

Whether we fix this story, re-start it, start over, or ditch it entirely for a new prompt, I think that this story, even with all its perceived flaws, has been the most successful collaborative creative writing project that I have ever been a part of. #YouGuysAreTheBest

[Jeff Ross]

#YouReallyAre

[DScott]

Well said. You’re a good mediator.

[riseofthekumquat]

I’m just tired of all this whining about how my entry ruined everything. If you had something that you wanted to do with the characters, then just do it. I’ve been nothing but reasonable since my “mistake.” I set up a hard reboot, I set up several forum topics to promote clarifications, I’ve explained where I was coming from, and I have made it clear (even though I think it isn’t as interesting of a direction to go) that I am fine with making my entry non-canon and saying that Lord Kumquat is yet another character that is trying to prove themselves to Kristen or we can add to the confusion and say that they have a completely different goal or maybe we can just take that character out of the story entirely. I’m just tired of taking crap for playing the game as it had been played for 15 prior pages before.

[riseofthekumquat]

I never intended to Mary Sue myself into your game and ruin everything. I have no connection to the character that I made outside of the name and had no intention of erasing anyone.

[Masøn M.]

I do think one of our current problems is that we’ve tried to talk it out too much. And yes, you, Troy, have done everything in your power to clarify and fix-up, and I thought we did at some point. But then we keep overthinking it and dwelling on it. We never actually get back to the actual game in which anything can happen and at any time be clarified through any means. I think this thread needs to die and we need to work it out through the story, not through discussion. I believe that all of us have introduced our own characters. Us. We are the main characters of the story. We know the backstory and what not about ourselves, while the others are still hidden. And that’s fun.

What I am leading to is that everyone should have freedom to change and continue a certain characters story, but big changes, such as completely redefining a character or killing them or something like that should lie in the hands of the corresponding real-world equivalent. This isn’t meant to be an attack, just like you can’t arrest someone for breaking a law that doesn’t yet exist, but rather a possible ‘1st Amendment’ to this fantastic game, if we are all able to agree on it.

Along with this, I think we should also not erase anything, or at least much. Rather adjust. Conform to the pieces of the others, just like the game started as.

Along with that as well, I think we should refrain from adding too many more characters, minus just stand in side characters like a Hot a Dog vendor or something along those lines (I.E. the hotel desk guy in my bit). He is an extra character, yes, but not one we need to really remember or track or give a history about. So that would be my proposed ‘2nd Amendment’.

If we can clarify just very basic rules for the continuation this story, not so much as to restrict creativity or hilarity, by to keep it making sense, I believe we can get back to, as Troy said, what made this so great.

Please let me know how you feel about the amendments, whether you agree, disagree, suggest a change, or suggest more.

Finally, I’d like to apologize to you, Kumquat, on behalf of myself. I hope it never seemed as if I was attacking you or complaining about your most beautifully well-written but, and if I did, please accept this plea.

Peace be with you and may Grace abound.
– Yours Truly, (Not Chris) Masøn.

[Masøn M.]

(I know I’m Attorney General and not a member of Congress but I’m still gonna suggest amendments. Deal with it.)

[Jeff Ross]

Couple insights:
People care about characters that they name after themselves far more deeply than they would any other character in any other story. It is a little irrational, but a tendency that every human has. When a writer puts himself into a story, he has higher expectations than normal.

Also (and I know this to be 100% the case for myself), when someone encounters a scenario that he has never encountered before and had never conceived to be possible, there is a tendency to emotionally react because of uncertainty on how to handle the scenario. I don’t think anyone thought that characters could (or would) be merged, let alone characters named for other authors, so an emotional response was elicited rather than a rationalization of how the characters could be re-separated (either literally or by means of a “just kidding!” type of plot device [or some other method]). The emotional response is an attempt to re-define the problem into one that is more familiar to solve. It’s neither right nor wrong in and of itself, but not optimal.

Call to action: Troy, don’t take offense at emotional responses toward your breaking unwritten rules in order to create a more interesting and creative story. Sometimes when being creative, the initial product can be a masterpiece in the eye of one while being rubbish in the eyes of another. Other times it’s better to try new things and see what happens, even if that reaction is negative. Reacting emotionally to an emotional response does not solve any problem. Instead, heed feedback and work to improve the product. Chris, don’t take offense at one author’s attempt to push the boundaries in an already fantastical tale. Just try to write a solution to the problem in the story itself or ask Troy to tweak his writing a little bit.

I think we all were pushing so hard to add to the story that this conflict was pushed to the side at first rather than fixing it right away. Now that the story is suspended, we’re over-analyzing why it stopped, just like Masøn said. Hopefully this post explains enough that we can get back onto the right track, but it’s going to be up to each of us to “bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another” (Colossians 3:13). If we need to add rules to this game, we can, but we need to be careful that we don’t ruin the essence of this creative exercise by over-regulation. I think all we need is to take a moment, breathe, realize how small the problem is, and fix it directly.

On the other hand, we can all just post brilliant thought pieces on this thread and turn this into an audio drama. xD I love reading what y’all right, whether silly or serious, so I’ll be happy either way. I just think we’ll all be more satisfied in the long run if we fix the issue.

[superchris01]

Whatever happens from here I’ll go what you guys decide with. I’m sorry I’m emotional about this. It probably will be best to put this behind us quickly.

And sorry I was a bit harsh on you Kumquat. I’m not usually good at controlling my actions when I get emotional and its something I need to work to improve on. I’m glad I finally said what bothered me about the whole story thing on my end, but if I needed to say it and the way I did I do not know. Sorry if I upset you tonight.

And sorry to everyone else for being difficult with this whole ordeal.

[Poulet Frit]

I agree with everyone that has said we have over thought this.

I apologize if anything I said hurt anyone’s feelings. That is never my intent. I try to live a life of showing love to everyone, but I know I fail. I’m sorry if I have failed again.

If we decide to move on from this point, I have a few questions as to how this affects my character. Since Troy wrote the entry, he would probably know best, but all input is welcome.

Questions:

How does all this affect my character?
Is my character legit still sleeping in the hammock or did I miss something?
If kumquat is “evil” and Kristen is “evil”…we may eventually need a giant fight…which I’m all for…but I am not strong, so I don’t imagine I will win. (That was a question….)

[Poulet Frit]

Also…kumquat legit murdered my love (in the story) (not really murdered but…I haven’t had coffee yet, my vocabulary isn’t super big right now), so if Kristen knows that kumquat absorbed Chris or whatever….she may become 100% revenge driven

[Masøn M.]

Hah! And then we can have a big twist where if you both have a common enemy you’re a friend, so Kristen and the gang band together to stop the reign of terror from Kumquat. Quite similar to the Inifinity Gauntlet comic, actually…

[riseofthekumquat]

I also need to apologize, I was over-defensive of my work and inconsiderate as to what my thing would do to the story. I’m not holding anything against any of you guys, I was just tired and frustrated.

You guys could stick with what we have now or we can go back a bit and reestablish Lord Kumquat and Valdra Muinthriel as characters from a completely different faction who have captured Peter (so far, just Peter) and want to capture the rest of the Time Lords for a different reason than Kristen. I like that Infinite War comparison and I think there’s something there. This can still work, what I did initially is not the only way to go about doing all of this.

[superchris01]

Okie doke, let’s continue where we left off.

But may I ask if we ignore the Kumquat absorbing Super Chris part for now (since that part was conceived to be in the past when SC is in the present)? I’ll be cool with it down the line, there’s just a couple things I want to do with Super Chris in the next one to two chapters I do, which I’m willing to do one today.

Also another solution is we could introduce Evil Christopher as the one actually absorbed. Heads up about this character, he’s not that evil. Just misguided and has a strong rivalry with Super Chris. But that does add another character to the story so I don’t know how you guys feel about that. But there’s a good spite/rivalry dynamic between SC and EC if we do include them.

Would you be alright with that Kumquat?

[superchris01]

I do like the going back a tiny bit and making Lord Kumquat and Valdra a different faction. It be cool to a big battle against them

[Josiah the Carrot Stick]

*It’d

[superchris01]

Again 😐

[DScott]

Also, what about the ‘Once Upon a Time-PART 2’ thread? Is that Canon? If it is, it probably should not be by itself, and get added to the new thread.

[Poulet Frit]

Yall will have to forgive me for not reading or adding to OUAT tonight…and tomorrow.
I just finished my continuing education for doing taxes…like literally just finished…so I am in the mindset of business income for sole proprietorships…not a good mindset to be in when trying to add to a story.
And tomorrow…I may be doing a 4 hour long test to level up…so my brain will be fried.
Oh and then I have to do training since I was technically fired and rehired (my positional is technically seasonal) I have to go through training every year…that’s always fun

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